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Nevada LIFE Testimony On SB 299:

Nevada LIFE Testimony On SB 299, The NV Lacy and Connor's Law April 6, 2007.

Nevada LIFE Supplemental Testimony On SB 299, The NV Lacy and Connor's Law April 6, 2007.

Nevada LIFE Press Releases: 

One Victim or Two? Nevada's Laci and Connor's Law Gets Hearing Friday, April 4, 2007.

Nevada LIFE Press Release on Laci and Connor's Law Feb. 25, 2004 

Nevada LIFE Press Release on Laci and Connor's Law March 18, 2004 

Nevada Unborn Victims Bill Hearing April 6, 2007

SB 299:

Text of SB 299.

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Senate Committee Hears NV Laci & Connor's Bill

Planned Parenthood, ACLU, NOW Oppose Bill And Calling Unborn Child An Unborn Child.

At a Nevada Senate Judiciary Committee Friday April 6, 2007, Planned Parenthood, NOW NV and The ACLU all opposed a bill that says that when a pregnant woman is attacked, there are two victims not one.  Senator Warren Hardy's SB 299 says  “… a pregnant  woman and an unborn child she is carrying in the womb constitute separate and distinct victims for purposes of prosecuting any criminal offense set forth in the Nevada Revised Statutes that  involves the use of violence.

What could be wrong with that?  Everything if you are Planned Parenthood, NOW or the ACLU.  They believe that anything that humanizes the unborn is a legal threat to abortion.  While it may be an educational threat to the occurrences of abortion, laws like this have been around for years, even in California, America's abortion leader.  

Planned Parenthood argued that we should drop the term unborn child.  They would rather use more "medically correct" language.  That of course is a red herring meant to confuse.  What is there not to understand about the word unborn child.  No one says that they are having or carrying a fetus.  They say they are having a baby and that they are pregnant with child and carrying their son or daughter.  

Nevada LIFE President Don Nelson's testimony countered that "we instinctively know the unborn is someone and not something-a human being whom we love.  And so we name them, read to them and make places for them in our homes long before they are born.  So the unborn is a distinct human being fully sharing in our humanity and deserves to be recognized as such. An attack on the unborn is an attack on a distinct human being and makes him a second victim."

That's why he said that "the law should be changed to say the unborn is a distinct victim because there is no doubt that the unborn child is a distinct human being from the first day of his existence.  At conception the unborn has his own biological identity by virtue of his own unique genetic code which also guides his development.  The heart begins to beat by 21 days, brain waves are recorded by 40 days and all of his systems are in place by 8 weeks.  Ultrasound technology shows the unborn playing in the womb and at other times smiling and waving to the camera.  Twins have been seen hugging their siblings in utero."  It is clear that the unborn is a human being and a separate victim.

Planned Parenthood made other arguments which Nelson countered.  They are listed in the following from his supplemental testimony to the Judiciary Committee.

April 9, 2007

Dear Chairman Amodei,

".....On behalf of Nevada LIFE (www.nevadalife.org) I would like to respond to a few claims by Planned Parenthood regarding this bill.  I mentioned them briefly in my testimony but would like to express them in writing and I have included exhibits.

1. Laws like this have not conflicted with Roe.  According to our colleagues at National Right To Life, there have been nine challenges to laws like SB 299 which “were at least based in part on Roe v. Wade and/or denial of equal protection, unless other wise noted.”  Please see the attachment Constitutional Challenges To State Unborn Victims (Fetal Homicide) Laws.

National Right To Life makes this observation regarding the Supreme Court’s Landmark Abortion Case Webster v. Reproductive Health Services.

In the 1989 case of Webster v. Reproductive Health Services (492 U.S. 490), the U.S. Supreme Court refused to invalidate a Missouri statute (Mo. Rev. Stat. 1.205.1) that declares that "the life of each human being begins at conception," that "unborn children have protectable interests in life, health, and well-being," and that all state laws "shall be interpreted and construed to acknowledge on behalf of the unborn child at every stage of development, all the rights, privileges, and immunities available to other persons, citizens, and residents of this state," to the extent permitted by the Constitution and U.S. Supreme Court rulings. A lower court had held that Missouri's law "impermissibl[y]" adopted "a theory of when life begins," but the Supreme Court nullified this ruling, and held that a state is free to enact laws that recognize unborn children, so long as the state does not include restrictions on abortion that Roe forbids. (Constitutional Challenges To State Unborn Victims (Fetal Homicide) Laws.")

2. Laws like this will not restrict or impact the availability of abortion.  Sharron Rocha, Laci Peterson’s mother and Connor Peterson’s grandmother notes that California' s unborn victim law has been in effect since 1970 and has not affected the availability of legal abortion-nor do unborn victims laws in 33 other states.  California leads the nation in abortions and Mrs. Rocha rightly says that it was California’s unborn victims provision that was used to convict Scott Peterson of murdering her grandson Connor.  The committee has a briefing from Mr. Dan Yu regarding Unborn Victims laws in these other states and Planned Parenthood’s charge that it is based on National Right To Life’s memo on this is irrelevant as long as they have cited those laws correctly.

3. We believe the intent to harm the fetus or knowledge that the woman is pregnant with child is irrelevant.   The principle of transferred intent covers the unborn.    A Minnesota Supreme Court ruled in upholding the Minnesota unborn victims law and said , “The possibility that a female homicide victim of childbearing age may be pregnant is a possibility that an assaulter may not safely exclude." [State v. Merrill, 450 N.W.2d 318 (Minn. 1990)].

In addition, the text of the Federal Unborn Victims Law says “An offense under this section does not require proof that--`(i) the person engaging in the conduct had knowledge or should have had knowledge that the victim of the underlying offense was pregnant; or `(ii) the defendant intended to cause the death of, or bodily injury to, the unborn child.”

4. SB 299 does not need exemptions for killing unborn children pre-viability.  Other states have language which protect unborn children before viability and they have stood constitutional challenges.  Pennsylvania justices rejected this argument, "to accept that a fetus is not biologically alive until it can survive outside of the womb would be illogical, as such a concept would define fetal life in terms that depend on external conditions, namely, the state of medical technology. . viability outside of the womb is immaterial to the question of whether the defendant's actions have caused a cessation of the biological life of the fetus ..."

The Federal Unborn Victims Of Violence Act itself says the law applies to “a child, who is in utero at the time the conduct takes place.”  A California Court said that CA’s unborn provision would apply to the unborn after the embryonic period, 7 or 8 weeks.  There is no need to fear a lack of exceptions for  pre-viable unborn children will be unconstitutional. 

5. Polls indicate that there is clear support for Unborn Victims laws like this even when a person opposes abortion.  Please see our attached sheet One Victim or Two? from National Right To Life.  It contains three polls from Fox News, Newsweek.  All three show overwhelming support. 

END OF TESTIMONY

6. Planned Parenthood also argued that this bill would not protect any pregnant women.  We noted at the hearing that this argues against the words of assailants themselves.  For instance, 

"Tracy Marciniak’s son Zachary was brutally murdered in the womb by his father (Marciniak’s husband) just before he was to be born.  In Wisconsin there were no unborn victims laws and the assailant was only charged with and convicted of first-degree reckless injury, and for false imprisonment.  Before his trial he said that he would never have assaulted Marciniak if he had thought he could be charged with killing an unborn baby.  The words of this assailant say loud and clear that this will protect women as well as children."  (From Don Nelson's testimony). 

The Committee will soon vote on this bill and consider amendments.  

Nevada LIFE supports SB 299 because there are clearly two victims, it will provide added protections to the unborn child and their mothers, and prosecuting the crime against the unborn with the same laws as which the state would prosecute crimes against the mother are more fitting and satisfy the demands of justice far better than 1-10 in prison and a maximum $10,000 fine.   We all know that the unborn is a unique separate human being.  It's time the law recognized it.

 

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